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From: Cuer
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Posted: 2005-09-09 11:32:27

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PlayOnline: About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users

From:FINAL FANTASY XI
Sep. 9, 2005 03:15 [PDT]

About Action Taken Against Third-Party Tool Users

Recently it has come to our attention that an unauthorized third-party software tool was made available to the public. This tool allows players to change their job from anywhere in Vana 'diel.

In response to this, an emergency maintenance was carried out on Sep. 4 13:00 to 16:00 (PDT) to prevent further use of this tool within FINAL FANTASY XI.

As a result of an ongoing investigation, it has been determined that over 600 accounts will be either suspended or terminated for the malicious and intentional use of this third-party tool.

We would like to take this time to remind our players that the use of any third-party tools to change or modify the game in any way is strictly prohibited in the PlayOnline environment. We will continue to take any necessary actions against those individuals that we have confirmed to have used such tools.

Please note that by using these third-party tools, the consequences may extend beyond action being taken against your account. Some tools may cause character information to be altered, erased, or personal information to be leaked to unwanted third parties. If you come across a third-party tool over the internet, we ask that you please refrain from the download of such a tool, no matter how minor it may appear to be.

We thank you for your cooperation and understanding in this matter.

Official PlayOnline Announcement

From: Plight Registered User Posted: 2005-09-09 17:37:42	Reply Quote
Y'know, if they'd just put in a Nomad Moogle in Selbina, I bet that program wouldn't've gotten half the usage that it did.

From: Ichthyos Registered User Posted: 2005-09-09 18:37:58	Reply Quote
The thing about changing your job is that all your ability recast timers reset (except your 2-hour ability), and your HP and MP fill up. This was letting people solo a lot of things that they shouldn't have been able to solo.

From: angelstar107 Guest Posted: 2005-09-09 19:53:37	Reply Quote
You can't blame SE for not having a moogle in Selbina. To counterargue that, they'd have to put one in Mhaura too. Just because there isn't a Nomad Moogle in Mhaura or Selbina is no reason to use 3rd party tools. It's just something else players have to deal with. Sorry, but get used to it.

From: Nynja
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Posted: 2005-09-09 21:15:57

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The thing about changing your job is that all your ability recast timers reset (except your 2-hour ability), and your HP and MP fill up. This was letting people solo a lot of things that they shouldn't have been able to solo.

whaaaaaaaaa ?????

BLM/WHM Leaves jeuno to go to faf, and goes anon.
BLM/WHM reaches boyahda tree and subs thf
BLM/WHM(THF) hits flee and flees past the first 2 crab ponds, since you can solid snake past w/out sneak.
BLM/WHM reverts to /whm and sneaks past the spiders and reaches the aery.
BLM/WHM sneaks and drops in the pit, and subs war.
BLM/WHM(WAR) uses Provoke on Fafnir.

<3<3<3

From: cornnholio Guest Posted: 2005-09-09 22:18:31	Reply Quote
Not having a moogle in Selbina is good. Selbina is like boot camp. Moogle would only be a crutch.

From: Vivi from pandy
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Posted: 2005-09-09 23:11:18

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Ya...no windower stuff like I thought this would be, only crap like this. SE seems to be pretty nice about things like this. (It knows a sheer abundance of players use windower, but no action! GO SE! o.O) Tools like those that hack into the system to cheat are just wrong.

I doubt this 'tool' was out for very long as it would have left a massive log change and been very easy to track. 600 people getting banned for it shows just how BAD it was. I've never seen it in action, but if one is /anon you wouldn't be able to tell unless you followed them and saw the changes. (non-battle)

I really say SE is being fair and good about this stuff, banning people who cheat the system like that. Gilsellers who force monoplies and even keeping up with new gear and stuff.

Its much better then it used to be when people with bots claimed EVERYTHING and let us poor mages get crap. Now dia stands and equal chance even. Go SE! ^-^"

From: Magnumriver
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Posted: 2005-09-10 04:41:53

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I hate to say this, but I admit to using a Windower application. The reason why is because Playonline boots me randomly every 10-30minutes. I ran every virus scan possible, terminated all non-essential processes, reinstalled the FFXI software... nada. Was unable to fix the problem. I tried windower and would no longer get booted (although the colors look much less vibrant). Every 10-30 min I see a second Playonline icon appear in my taskbar and immediately disappear (that is what I'm assuming was causing me to DC before). I would love to stop using Windower since it washes up all the colors... anyone have any ideas?

From: Darque9
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Posted: 2005-09-10 06:06:30

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In game, main menu, ffxi, auto-disconnect make sure it's set to off? As for windower, if you start everything up, then do a ctrl alt delete to bring up the task manager, click on the processes tab, sort by image name. If you have two pol.exe's running, you can safely kill the one that's using less memory. As far as I know, pol doesnt open up extra pol's, only various windower applications. Final note, probably more suitable to ask this question on the forums for whatever windower you're using, not on the somepage discussion board.

From: Magnumriver
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Posted: 2005-09-10 11:05:50

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In game, main menu, ffxi, auto-disconnect make sure it's set to off? As for windower, if you start everything up, then do a ctrl alt delete to bring up the task manager, click on the processes tab, sort by image name. If you have two pol.exe's running, you can safely kill the one that's using less memory. As far as I know, pol doesnt open up extra pol's, only various windower applications. Final note, probably more suitable to ask this question on the forums for whatever windower you're using, not on the somepage discussion board.

Auto-disconnect is definitely off and only one instance of pol is running. This issue has absolutely nothing to do with windower... windower was the solution to the problem. Playonline itself is the issue. It seems to spawn a second instance for about half a second randomly and then kill it. But that half a second is enough to boot me for the game. Very high end computer too. If it wasn't for a 3rd party app I could realisically play FF. I don't see how poosting on the windower forums would help since windower wasn't the cause of the issue.

From: Nynja Registered User Posted: 2005-09-10 11:37:16	Reply Quote
Quote from: Vivi from pandy I doubt this 'tool' was out for very long as it would have left a massive log change and been very easy to track. 600 people getting banned for it shows just how BAD it was. Number Crunch: 32 servers / 600 people banned = ~19 people banned per server. thats not much

From: Random Poster Guest Posted: 2005-09-10 11:44:05	Reply Quote
In reply to the 'question' bring up console. reset gamma. problem should be fixed.

From: Vivi from pandy
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Posted: 2005-09-10 14:52:04

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I doubt this 'tool' was out for very long as it would have left a massive log change and been very easy to track. 600 people getting banned for it shows just how BAD it was.

Number Crunch:
32 servers / 600 people banned = ~19 people banned per server.

thats not much

600 is 2x more then the Gilseller 'clean-up' in which they were suspended or banned. SE rarely does anything of this massive nature and I believe to date is the largest punishment of users in the game's history all at once for this.

Not the sheer number or people themselves who were punished, but the sheer number is much greater then previous announcements of this nature.

Sorry for not making it clearer, but the increase and reaction to it is why I consider it a BAD thing.

From: Nynja Registered User Posted: 2005-09-10 15:34:39	Reply Quote
gilseller cleanup was 800, IIRC

From: Botolf@Midgardsormr
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Posted: 2005-09-10 18:18:27

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Ya...no windower stuff like I thought this would be, only crap like this. SE seems to be pretty nice about things like this. (It knows a sheer abundance of players use windower, but no action! GO SE! o.O) Tools like those that hack into the system to cheat are just wrong.

Yeah, SE have been nice about windower so far, but with all the plugins and stuff on the way I think they are going to get harder people using on it. And they should.
Someone needs to write a program that does nothing else than window the app, or SE should make it an option to play in windowed mode.

From: Meilin
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Posted: 2005-09-10 19:42:58

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Quote from: Vivi from pandy
Ya...no windower stuff like I thought this would be, only crap like this. SE seems to be pretty nice about things like this. (It knows a sheer abundance of players use windower, but no action! GO SE! o.O) Tools like those that hack into the system to cheat are just wrong.

Yeah, SE have been nice about windower so far, but with all the plugins and stuff on the way I think they are going to get harder people using on it. And they should.
Someone needs to write a program that does nothing else than window the app, or SE should make it an option to play in windowed mode.

You can disable the scripts in the windwoer(the Azaril windower, not the insane JP one that has the maps and timers and stuff) and its so simple, just erase a few lines and save. I have it (it makes life easy when you lfg) and all I have acitve is windower(incluses the FPS), the screenshot taker, and the auto light. No TP watcher or the summoner thing. That is the perfect program, a windower, a light becuase of the reduced size, and a screenshot taker for remebering things.

From: Garuka! Guest Posted: 2005-09-11 00:53:42	Reply Quote
I don't think SE is acting on Windowers, because people aren't complaining and leaving. With the job changer and provoke bot, people were leaving game and complaining and SE was losing money as a result. I could be wrong, and I'm just saying what I've seen.

From: Midnightcalm Guest Posted: 2005-09-12 11:00:44	Reply Quote
It's only a matter of time till SE acts on people using the Windower program. (but then again this is SE we are talking about, so maybe in 2-3 years, lol). It would be better if SE would come out with their own version of the windower program and market it for use in ffxi, to make a legal version at least.(not saying windower is illegal, its just a 3rd party program).

From: leonoxx
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Posted: 2005-09-12 13:54:18

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I'm not exactly positive, but I'm 99.9% sure that the windower is not going to be brought down by SE for two reasons...

1) Windower gives equal opportunity for PC players as opposed to xbox and playstation. Where the Playstation and xbox can be left on while the player surfs the net on thier computor, the windower allows for the same.

2.) second is the windower is a program run by your computor acting on YOUR computors applications. It is virtually undetectable by online resources unless you are sent, and accept a search on your current applications or something similar.

True, if you /tell someone that you can tell them the ingredients to make the new armor you want, because you have a windower enabled, that could jeopardize it. Also, if you use some of the other 3rd party programs you could get caught, but if you are only using the application that opens ffxi in a window, then you should be in the safe...

From: anon Guest Posted: 2005-09-13 10:05:53	Reply Quote
Ps2 and xbox users could leave on there systems on while checking info on the net, but they are checking the net from a seperate computer.

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