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Enter message:	[quote][i]Quote from: Whyrl[/i] I've done a fair amount of desynthing (easily more than 2000 desynths, but I wasn't counting, could be a lot higher by now, I know in one day alone I went through over 400 lightning crystals, and doing 60-100 desynths at a time is pretty normal for me), and I haven't found too much consistancy. Desynthing is [b]very highly random[/b]. I know enough about probability and statistics (had a roommate who majored in that who did a thesis on "hot streaks" in sports and was able to mathematically show that they fall within normal deviation ranges) to know that until we get provided with a LARGE data set, we can't draw any valuable conclusions about desynths. So due to that high random nature of desynthesis, you would need an extremely large number (literally 1000s per Moonphase&Day combination) to provide any useful numbers. In my experience, it [i]seems[/i] that being in the range of 5 to 1 under the desynthesis cap is in your favor, and you won't have that kind of "advantage" again until you are decently over the cap. However, I know from my experience that once you are over the cap (no set number, seems roughly 25) that you can once again desynth "just fine". It's right around the cap and for a little while above it where desynthing [i]seems[/i] worse. It could have been (bad) luck though, I haven't tried to test that in depth. (I haven't wanted to risk the investment if it were to prove that desynthing just over a cap is bad) Moon Phase in my experience has had absolutely no noticeable effect on success OR HQ rate on desynthing. The best run I ever had on desynths was at Moon Phase of 66% (was a little lower when I started, was desynthing for 2-3 hours that run). But that doesn't mean I normally have a good or bad moon phase time. Days of the week [i]seem[/i] to affect desynthesis more noticeably than any other factor, but even saying that, it's not enough to make me really care what day of the week is unless I have a [i]really[/i] important desynth. My experience on days: Icesday is the best day for results (no idea why, but it's happened so consistantly I can say it). It's no guarantee you'll get good results though, but it's been the best day 9 out of 10 times. HQ1 and HQ2 often on ices, HQ3 as much as NQ. Darksday is 2nd best. Tended to get HQ1 more often than any other. Also had the most fail/loss going on typically. Earthsday was an oddball (possibly from earth being strong to lightning?) I had a very high rate of HQ3 and NQ, rarely got HQ1 or HQ2. The other days of the week seemed about the same, except Lightsday, which was generally the worst. Most common desynths used back when I was "researching" this (don't have my numbers anymore and didn't do any real official write-ups or anything): robe (clothcraft), quadav backplate (smithing), leather vest (leather), leather belt (leather), copper ring (gold), and a few others less often. I also had anectodal info from a goldsmither friend who was desynthing silver earrings (or rings, I forget), and another who was desynthing some low level weapons as well as stuff he was skilling alchemy on. They both saw similar results to mine related to day, but both also saw the extreme randomness to desynthing. The only numbers I remember, roughly were on leather vests When I was exactly 5 below the cap in leather ages ago, I would desynth 60 vests in a run. I was coming out with 66-80 sheep leather and 1-6 lizard skins. I then used the sheep leather to skill leather to 11 (which happened to be 1 over the cap for the vest desynth). I went back to try to desynth more sheep leather and for 60 vests was coming up with 45-60 sheep leather and 0-1 lizard skins. It was frustrating, because back then, getting 60 leather for 60 vests was barely breaking even compared to the AH, to get less I was losing money (though depending on how many crystals I had to burn to do it all affected that price too). Last time I went to do leather vests I was at 41 in leather, and I got results basically the same as what I'd gotten when I was just under the cap. Oh, and I have extreme doubts on direction faced affecting desynths. It has had no noticeable affect for me (by any of the 3 main guides that are all different over which direction is the "right" one to face and how much they even matter). Now I just face the shopkeeper and blow their wares up in their faces ;)[/quote]

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