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Dia + Bio

From: Alixander
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Posted: 2006-12-09 19:09:45

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Maybe I'm going crazy...

Do Bio and Dia stack now? I've been levelling BLM, and have been Bio'ing everything to raise my dark skill, and have been noticing that I see my Bio wear off even after someone else Dia's the mob.

I just tried it as my WHM/BLM, and picked a Tabar Beak that was 'Too Weak, High Defense'. I cast Dia, and rechecked to find him simply 'Too Weak' now, meaning Dia lowered his Defense. I then cast Bio and re-checked. Still simply 'To Weak' with no mention of High Defense again.

From: zimmer
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Posted: 2006-12-14 00:19:25

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Bio and Dia do not stack.

Dia does damage, and lowers defense.
Bio does damage, and lowers attack.

Bio will overright dia, dia2 will overright bio, bio2 will overright dia and dia2.
(I assume dia3 and bio3 work the same way, but have not tested them yet)

I try and use dia with a nin tank, and bio with a pld tank.
It also depends on the defense of the mob, and whatever else
is going on, most people want dia because they see it as helping them
do more damage. They don't see that bio can lower the damage
your tank (and others) take from the mobs. (bio does do more initial
damage and more damage over time)

From: Alixander
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Posted: 2006-12-14 09:58:28

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I understand this, but from what I saw in my logs, they appear to be stacking...

As a levelling BLM, my first macro hits with Bio, Poison, and Blind (level 18 BLM now). I would then see the RDM or WHM cast Dia, which I expected would remove my Bio effect. It's fine either way, I'm only Bio'ing to raise my Dark Magic skill. What the logs show is that Bio wears off later in the battle, and then eventually Dia will also wear off.

In the past, I never noticed an overridden de-buff wear off, I thought Bio just went away quietly when Dia hit. Since you can't see the mob's actual HP numbers, it's hard to tell whether it is dwindling faster or not with both spells in effect. The only way I knew to check this was by lowering the 'checked' defense value, which seemed to support that the first de-buff was still in effect, even after the second one hit.

meh, probably just me going crazy...

From: Toksyuryel Registered User Posted: 2007-01-02 11:28:51	Reply Quote
The Attack Down and Defense Down effects of Bio and Dia do not stack, however the DoT effects DO stack.

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